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that's all. >> reporter: tamerlan's body has not been taken into custody. the parents say they would like to bring the body back with them to russia. >> shepard: trace gallagher, it's my understanding a local boston mosque wouldn't have a -- wouldn't have a funeral for him. is that true? >> we're checking that out. we heard those reports. it's not been confirmed but we heard that. the parents said they would like to take the body home and give it a proper muslim burial in the homeland. >> shepard: thank you. if this does make it to trial, the defense strategy is clear. all they want to do is avoid the death penalty. with us, rebecca rosewoodland live in the studio. it's my understanding this guy has a pretty good defense team. a high profile attorney about whom we have information. >> we have a lot of information. miriam conrad is the head of what we call the public defenders office. he said in his hospital bed, the one word he said was, no meaning i cannot afford an attorney. under our constitution we provide defendants with attorneys. we're providing him
that's all. >> reporter: tamerlan's body has not been taken into custody. the parents say they would like to bring the body back with them to russia. >> shepard: trace gallagher, it's my understanding a local boston mosque wouldn't have a -- wouldn't have a funeral for him. is that true? >> we're checking that out. we heard those reports. it's not been confirmed but we heard that. the parents said they would like to take the body home and give it a proper muslim burial in the...
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government more than once about tamerlan tsarnaev, it may be different agencies involved. there are questions we are hearing from republican members wanting to know more about what nbi may have known when the suspect who is now deceased came back from russia after a six-month trip. questions about, was there any way that more information might have been available. in talking to other senators, they point out that they get like 20,000 tips to the intelligence community that get rundown about these various potential suspects or people to watch for. senator feinstein also said that tamerlan tsarnaev was on a watch list but he fell off that list because if after a year, there was no reason to suspect the person, they drop off the list. so those are some of the details we are hearing in conversations. >> and kelly, that sound like the substantive inquiry. what about the temperature? would you say people on the hill or generally respectfully proceeding now? or is there a temperature raising and concerns about whether we knew everything we could have known in advance? >> well, th
government more than once about tamerlan tsarnaev, it may be different agencies involved. there are questions we are hearing from republican members wanting to know more about what nbi may have known when the suspect who is now deceased came back from russia after a six-month trip. questions about, was there any way that more information might have been available. in talking to other senators, they point out that they get like 20,000 tips to the intelligence community that get rundown about...
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and tamerlan was alone for that trip. although the father had been quoted as saying he was there and tamerlan never left his side. the surviving suspect younger brother dzhokhar has reportedly told authorities that his brother was the mastermind of the boston marathon bombing and that there was no international influence. but the feds are investigating the possibility that during his trip overseas tamerlan may have had contact with a man known as the russian bin laden. sea chechen islamic radical considered one of the world's most wanted men and we learn this information just as we learn that our fbi is saying contrary to reports out of the u.s. senate that it did not have multiple contacts from the russian government as the senator had suggested the fbi or the others. get to that in a minute. first though greg palkot joins us with the very latest live from london, greg? >> yeah, megyn. officials we have been speaking to at the u.s. embassy and at the fbi are not saying too much about this visit but multiple reports confi
and tamerlan was alone for that trip. although the father had been quoted as saying he was there and tamerlan never left his side. the surviving suspect younger brother dzhokhar has reportedly told authorities that his brother was the mastermind of the boston marathon bombing and that there was no international influence. but the feds are investigating the possibility that during his trip overseas tamerlan may have had contact with a man known as the russian bin laden. sea chechen islamic...
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tamerlan's family now trying to find a place to bury him. authorities released the body and the mosque the family attended in boston declined the request for a service. the associated press is reported that tamerlan fell under the influence of a mysterious radical in the years before the bombing. a muslim convert who steered him toward a strain of islam and reports this morning that the sole surviving suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev may want to be moved to another hospital because of the victims at the hospital are upset he is there. nbc news did not confirm that report. another report that dzhokhar sold pot on campus prior to the bombings and he sold that to make money to get by. joe biden is expected to attend a memorial service for sean collier killed by the bombing suspects allegedly and more healing. boylston street reopened earlier this morning. crews removed the barriers around 3:00 a.m. the site of the first explosion has been repaved and surrounded by construction cones. we'll hear from pete williams tracking down a new lead in this case.
tamerlan's family now trying to find a place to bury him. authorities released the body and the mosque the family attended in boston declined the request for a service. the associated press is reported that tamerlan fell under the influence of a mysterious radical in the years before the bombing. a muslim convert who steered him toward a strain of islam and reports this morning that the sole surviving suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev may want to be moved to another hospital because of the victims at...
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officials his sons were innocent and tamerlan said no contact with radicals in dagestan. extremists there claimed the same. there are different reasons for him going, conflicting timelines of where he was and who he was with. a lot of focus on one of the mosquit mosque. they believe in fact he did make contact with extremists. again no hard evidence of that contact. at least during the time he was in that dagestan city he had exposure to radicalism. there was several clashes between islamist troops demanding independence for dagestan from russia. no hard evidence again but circumstantial evidence of the significance of this trip before, by all accounts he had turned much more conservative in his islamic beliefs. after that it all ratcheted up. after the trip he spoke out at a local moderate boston mosque, started posting islamic videos on his youtube site and allegedly started to make preparations for that boston attack along with his surviving brother dzhokhar. jon: perhaps there will be time to answer the question in the days ahead. the father moved his family here clai
officials his sons were innocent and tamerlan said no contact with radicals in dagestan. extremists there claimed the same. there are different reasons for him going, conflicting timelines of where he was and who he was with. a lot of focus on one of the mosquit mosque. they believe in fact he did make contact with extremists. again no hard evidence of that contact. at least during the time he was in that dagestan city he had exposure to radicalism. there was several clashes between islamist...
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did go talk to tamerlan. what if they didn't find anything, he wasn't doing anything radical? >> i don't know what you think you're going to find and they say no, i'm not. i think the fact that the russian government told us that this is a guy that is a possible terrorist, a couple of his husband preliminary sympathies were expressed should have been enough to put him on a list. then when he went to russia, somebody should have said, what's this guy doing in russia for six months and nobody asked, how is he supporting himself? russia, six months? no salary? an american can't do that. >> steve: apparently they have welfare up in massachusetts. >> it costs a lot of money to travel to russia. >> brian: mr. mayor, i could actually add to that because port gossage was heard, he believes there was little coordination between the f.b.i. and c.i.a. in this respect. he goes to russia and then goes from there, it looks like to one of the most vicious places in the world where they train the worst of the worst. by the way, he went to visit his dad, who knows nothing about what happened t
did go talk to tamerlan. what if they didn't find anything, he wasn't doing anything radical? >> i don't know what you think you're going to find and they say no, i'm not. i think the fact that the russian government told us that this is a guy that is a possible terrorist, a couple of his husband preliminary sympathies were expressed should have been enough to put him on a list. then when he went to russia, somebody should have said, what's this guy doing in russia for six months and...
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also controversial over the burial of tamerlan tsarnaev. they are distancing themselveses for the bomber and from krygyzstan. also this is on the day of two funerals for two victims. 8-year-old martin richard killed in the bombing and m.i.t. officer sean collier who was shot by the alleged bombers. and we have jake tapper with the latest on the investigation and nic robertson with what the suspects' mother is saying. jake, bring me up to speed on the latest news. >> reporter: well, piers we told you yesterday that he was cooperating with investigators. we talked about there was a motivation. that the brothers thought islam was being attacked and needed to defend it. a u.s. government official told me today that one of the reasons in the justification, in the motivation, according to investigators is that dzhokhar said the wars in iraq and afghanistan were part of why they carried out this senseless act. so this is just what he is telling investigators. it is to be taken with something of a grain of salt and no one obviously is just automati
also controversial over the burial of tamerlan tsarnaev. they are distancing themselveses for the bomber and from krygyzstan. also this is on the day of two funerals for two victims. 8-year-old martin richard killed in the bombing and m.i.t. officer sean collier who was shot by the alleged bombers. and we have jake tapper with the latest on the investigation and nic robertson with what the suspects' mother is saying. jake, bring me up to speed on the latest news. >> reporter: well, piers...
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we are still trying to get to the real story on tamerlan tsarnaev's trip to russia last year and his possible ties to terrorism and islamic extremism. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is following that thread tonight. >> the fbi's handling of tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011 and six-month trip to russia the following year now face congressional scrutiny. >> was your department aware of his travels to russia and, if you weren't, the reason? >> yes. the system pinged when he was leaving the united states. by the time he returned all investigations had been -- the matter had been closed. >> napolitano said the lookout system that flags agents federal investigation no longer active when tamerlan returned from russia in july of 2012. >> the system picked up departure but did not pick him coming back, correct? >> the fbi text alert on him at that point was more than a year old and had expired. >> napolitano's pluck contradict briefing given by the fbi director. >> after talking to the fbi they told me they had no knowledge of him leaving or coming back. the name was misspelled.
we are still trying to get to the real story on tamerlan tsarnaev's trip to russia last year and his possible ties to terrorism and islamic extremism. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is following that thread tonight. >> the fbi's handling of tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011 and six-month trip to russia the following year now face congressional scrutiny. >> was your department aware of his travels to russia and, if you weren't, the reason? >> yes. the system pinged...
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any possible role tamerlan tsarnaev may have played. >> how could we miss all of the activity this guy engaged in? >> the fbi seized bbs and a large pyrotechnic. >> it was almost entirely done from the internet. >> he did not need to see his miranda rights read to him in bed. it's laughable. >> the enemy is radical islam. >> i'd waterboard him, myself. >>> you are about to look live at a press conference in boston. where governor deval patrick and mayor thomas menino are about to speak about the formation and purpose of the one fund boston campaign. designed to assist those who are affected by last week's bomb attacks. this takes place as dzhokhar tsarnaev lies in a hospital bed facing charges. his condition now reported as fair. more than a week after the bombing, 45 of the scores of wounded remain hospitalized, and at least 13 have lost limbs. for the victims, the physical and emotional toll comes with a very real financial one as well. massive bills for trauma care, prosthetic limbs and even home modifications. not to mention, lengthy physical rehab and psychological counseling. as
any possible role tamerlan tsarnaev may have played. >> how could we miss all of the activity this guy engaged in? >> the fbi seized bbs and a large pyrotechnic. >> it was almost entirely done from the internet. >> he did not need to see his miranda rights read to him in bed. it's laughable. >> the enemy is radical islam. >> i'd waterboard him, myself. >>> you are about to look live at a press conference in boston. where governor deval patrick and...
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nell neil we -- >> neil: we know the fbi was alerted to tamerlan and his trips. gone through everything, his associations, everything about the guy, and they gave him the clean bill of health. they couldn't we d anything. we do know enough that about. we also know there might have been other requests for information on the younger brother. but there was enough outside interest expressed abroad to at least look at one of these suspects here that -- it does stretch credulity to wonder if it was left to just these guys? >> by the way, let's not forget, there were additional arrests in connection with this case over the weekend in the boston area. there will five additional arrests connected to this boston bombing and possibly to these bombers. so, come on. but i think, lock, the overseas trip is the key and it's interesting, janet napolitano can the department of homeland security chief, neil, says there was a ping when the older brother went to russia. okay. was there a ping when he returned? apparently not. because apparently, after he was there for six months, no
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tamerlan reportedly visited daily while he was there. do we know any more about the happenings at that mosque? >> no. but we have confirmed with someone who is a security adviser to the local government as well as to moscow who confirmed that there have been security campaigns in that mosque. there was a recent detention of about 100 to 200 people. there are rumors, and many people believe that there are people with militant backgrounds associated with that mosque. or at least who spend time in that mosque. there are a lot of people who are innocent and go there to pray. we're trying to clarify how often the son went. the aunt said he told her he was praying every day. >> thank you very much. let me bring in national investigative correspondent. the crime scene behind you, quote/unquote cleared and businesses and people are starting. i want to get to the detail of the investigation. just asked adrian who is in dagestan about this mosque. this becomes relevant because we're learning more about what the brothers may have been motivated by
tamerlan reportedly visited daily while he was there. do we know any more about the happenings at that mosque? >> no. but we have confirmed with someone who is a security adviser to the local government as well as to moscow who confirmed that there have been security campaigns in that mosque. there was a recent detention of about 100 to 200 people. there are rumors, and many people believe that there are people with militant backgrounds associated with that mosque. or at least who spend...
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we also don't know really pea sizely where tamerlan was for that six months. how much of the time he spent with relatives, how much of the time he may have spent in the region, a region popular with recruiters. >> we don't. we have heard that he went to a mosque here in the capital of dagestan. this mosque has a questionable history. it's a place where they have done regular clean-up campaigns. they have arrested people in one sweep up. there were 100 to 200 people detained, according to a man who a is security adviser to the government, both to dagestan and to the kremlin. on the other hand, there are a lot of people who attend the mosque who are completely innocent. who feel that they are consistently harassed. but it's not clear to us and we've been trying to talk to people, people say they sort of remember seeing tamerlan there. but they haven't actually identified who he was talking to. nobody has been able to come forward with a picture of how he spent his time. certainly not in that mosque. his aunt who did see quite a bit of him last year when he was v
we also don't know really pea sizely where tamerlan was for that six months. how much of the time he spent with relatives, how much of the time he may have spent in the region, a region popular with recruiters. >> we don't. we have heard that he went to a mosque here in the capital of dagestan. this mosque has a questionable history. it's a place where they have done regular clean-up campaigns. they have arrested people in one sweep up. there were 100 to 200 people detained, according to...
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that's the last she would have heard from tamerlan. >> we appreciate that. there are other family ties to dig deeper on. katherine russell is the widow of the older brother. investigators want to find out what she may know. tell us what did you find out about this woman. >> just in the last five minutes, katherine russell returned home to her house after a meeting with her lawyer. she went for a meeting. we know he has been speaking with some of those investigators on her behalf. perhaps we are getting closer to the point she may address some of their concerns directly. as they look at the fact that s she shared that cramped apartment with tamerlan tsarn v tsarnaev. she is devastated by this. the investigators want to know exactly what she may have known as they try to piece together what happened and try to determine when and where he may have assembled some of those bombs. that's the reason they want to talk to her. her attorney still tells us she had no idea any of this was going on. anderson. >> i mean, obviously it is understandable why they would want
that's the last she would have heard from tamerlan. >> we appreciate that. there are other family ties to dig deeper on. katherine russell is the widow of the older brother. investigators want to find out what she may know. tell us what did you find out about this woman. >> just in the last five minutes, katherine russell returned home to her house after a meeting with her lawyer. she went for a meeting. we know he has been speaking with some of those investigators on her behalf....
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the fbi wants to interview tamerlan tsarnaev's widow. so far that has not happened but agents have spoken to katherine russell's attorney. he says she knew nothing about her husband's alleged role in the boston bombings. katherine russell lives with her parents in rhode island, where cnn's chris lawrence is this morning. good morning, chris. what's the latest? >> yeah, john, basically investigators want from katherine russell, they want to know, "a," what she now about what her husband was doing. and, if he had any other affiliations besides his younger brother. let's take you to some new video that we shot just in the last hour. can you see katherine russell's attorney arriving here at the family's home. she comes out of the home, and they leave together, followed by federal authorities. we know investigators have been to this home several times over the past couple days but so far she is only speaking to them through her attorney. he does tell us that she does not know anything about her husband's activities. that she was working upwar
the fbi wants to interview tamerlan tsarnaev's widow. so far that has not happened but agents have spoken to katherine russell's attorney. he says she knew nothing about her husband's alleged role in the boston bombings. katherine russell lives with her parents in rhode island, where cnn's chris lawrence is this morning. good morning, chris. what's the latest? >> yeah, john, basically investigators want from katherine russell, they want to know, "a," what she now about what her...
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he -- tamerlan. he did not go to the funeral or call the family, and so there were some questions being asked at the time and now there is a lot of questions being asked, could tamerlan have been involved in those three murders? >> brian: the people that knew all three of them said at the same time after tamerlan was killed and after he did the bombing, they said i wonder if he was involved in this triple murder and there was no forced entry because it would insinuate that whoever got in, he knew them. >> steve: investigators at the time thought it could be drug related because in addition to having their throats slit, they were covered with marijuana. so they said okay. this is suspicious. didn't talk to him. now suddenly this is a lead. >> brian: let's talk about canada. salute the canadians, they have thwarted a plot that al-qaeda was putting together before it was implemented that would have them blowing up a train that was going from canada to the u.s. nome did they say it was al-qaeda inspired,
he -- tamerlan. he did not go to the funeral or call the family, and so there were some questions being asked at the time and now there is a lot of questions being asked, could tamerlan have been involved in those three murders? >> brian: the people that knew all three of them said at the same time after tamerlan was killed and after he did the bombing, they said i wonder if he was involved in this triple murder and there was no forced entry because it would insinuate that whoever got in,...
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>> well, yes, tamerlan was married. and we had one child and apparently living with her parents from north kings town rhode island about an hour from boston. we do know the fbi visited her parents' how many where she was living at least three times on sunday. what's not clear is whether they have interviewed her officially or whether she has just been cooperative giving them information. clearly the fbi wants to know what she knows because she was. >> >> bill: why didn't they take her in? can you take somebody in for questioning. why isn't she in an interrogation room? >> it's a good question, bill. we don't really know. >> bill: we don't know yet. we don't want to speculate. >> it could simply be that she is cooperating and telling them everything she knows. she does have an attorney, apparently. >> >> bill: it's a little training strange. not getting anything out of the finel are they interrogating her. whatever. we are getting reports that there is an interrogation underway with the younger bomber who is in the hospi
>> well, yes, tamerlan was married. and we had one child and apparently living with her parents from north kings town rhode island about an hour from boston. we do know the fbi visited her parents' how many where she was living at least three times on sunday. what's not clear is whether they have interviewed her officially or whether she has just been cooperative giving them information. clearly the fbi wants to know what she knows because she was. >> >> bill: why didn't they...
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also lists tamerlan's birthplace as russia. still not clear what happened after all of that that led tamerlan and his brother to allegedly commit these crimes. we also learned that federal authorities armed with a search warrant raided a new bedford apartment today. south of boston. a source telling us the raid is part of the joint terrorism task force's investigation into whether or not the bombers acted alone. we will see where that goes. shep? >> shepard: mike bow detective from mike beaudet from our norman tonight. oklahoma territory was home to several native american tribes that had been forced out of the southeast. but one when americans realized the land's potential for farming, perspective settlers pressed the government to open up indian territory. president benjamin harrison agreed and gave folks seven weeks to prepare. at high noon a cannon fired a single shot and thousands took off towards the open plot. by night fall, entire towns were born across a 2 million-acre stretch. oklahoma would officially become a state
also lists tamerlan's birthplace as russia. still not clear what happened after all of that that led tamerlan and his brother to allegedly commit these crimes. we also learned that federal authorities armed with a search warrant raided a new bedford apartment today. south of boston. a source telling us the raid is part of the joint terrorism task force's investigation into whether or not the bombers acted alone. we will see where that goes. shep? >> shepard: mike bow detective from mike...
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one brother in particular, tamerlan, became increasingly radicalized over the last several years. they warned the fbi he was a follower of radical islam. the fbi's investigation never turned up anything significant. tsarnaev traveled to the troubled region of dagestan for six months. it's where his parents live. it's a hub of jihadist recruitment generally. "the new york times" wrote yesterday. back home in the u.s., tsarnaev became more radicalized. the "boston globe" reports he disrupted conversations at his local cambridge mosque with outbursts of radical theology and created a youtube page. how did this lead up to the boston marathon a week ago? richard engel is nbc news' chief foreign correspondent. david is editor of the "new yorker" magazine. i want to start with richard, then to david. richard, why did the russians let him in if he was a problem for them a year earlier? >> it's common where you have governments watching people to give them some slack, to let them travel, to let them come into your country. it actually can be helpful sometimes if you're watching someone to
one brother in particular, tamerlan, became increasingly radicalized over the last several years. they warned the fbi he was a follower of radical islam. the fbi's investigation never turned up anything significant. tsarnaev traveled to the troubled region of dagestan for six months. it's where his parents live. it's a hub of jihadist recruitment generally. "the new york times" wrote yesterday. back home in the u.s., tsarnaev became more radicalized. the "boston globe"...
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if the russian government was so concerned about tamerlan as to alert our fbi and our government, and warrant an investigation of him, why are we so sure that dzhokhar is not connected to a cell of some sort back at home that might then make him an enemy combatant and then, two, if he is name an enemy combatant and treated as an everybody me combatant, that doesn't mean that he cannot be tried in a civilian court. correct? >> that's correct. in fact, he is not allowed to be under the military commission law. 20, it exempts american citizens. so there is that. they could hold him indefinitely. that has to be done, maybe, and maybe not because he is a civilian. that's a question the supreme court has not answered. the purpose has to be to keep him off the battlefield. not to interrogate him. and what you're saerg is interrogation, be to keep him off the battlefield. and point, two it is certainly possible. he is involved in a larger network of cells that may be affiliated with al qaeda. that's why the fbi has deployed interrogators. that's why they will ask him before they mirandize him
if the russian government was so concerned about tamerlan as to alert our fbi and our government, and warrant an investigation of him, why are we so sure that dzhokhar is not connected to a cell of some sort back at home that might then make him an enemy combatant and then, two, if he is name an enemy combatant and treated as an everybody me combatant, that doesn't mean that he cannot be tried in a civilian court. correct? >> that's correct. in fact, he is not allowed to be under the...
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apparently that did not sit too well with tamerlan tsarnaev. this board member said he compiled some information from people who were in the mosque at the time, and here is what he said they told him about how they described that outburst. >> some people said that he said something to the effect you cannot, you know, compare or make a parallel between our prophet and a non-muslim. some people said that he referred to the person who was giving the sermon as a hypocrite. >> and he said after that, people kind of sat him down and explained to him this was a violation of the etiquette of the mosque, that you shouldn't be doing that. he said this really almost never happens during a sermon. during a sermon, he says you're never even supposed to speak. at the time, he got up and had this outburst, said this guy was a hypocrite who was giving the sermon, said don't compare martin luther king to a non-muslim, shouldn't do that, outraged by it, they calmed him down, explained to him that was wrong, he left, but he did come back for friday prayers after
apparently that did not sit too well with tamerlan tsarnaev. this board member said he compiled some information from people who were in the mosque at the time, and here is what he said they told him about how they described that outburst. >> some people said that he said something to the effect you cannot, you know, compare or make a parallel between our prophet and a non-muslim. some people said that he referred to the person who was giving the sermon as a hypocrite. >> and he...
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tamerlan's wife? we know we've seen her, she's gone back to the cambridge house briefly to apparently get some mail and other things. she is believed to be with her parents in rhode island. are they interviewed her to know how much she knew about his radicalization? >> they will. they very much want to. they want to talk to every member of the family. they want it talk to all his friends. they want to know not just the answer to that question, but fill in as many pieces of the puzzle as they can. what were they up to in the months leading up to the bombing, what did they do afterwards, did they talk about plans? were they in touch with other people? the quick answer to your question is we don't believe they are have. her lawyer says he's in touch with the federal authorities now trying to work out details of that. they are going to get to her. they will interview her. she, she can be subpoenaed if necessary. so that, that will be done. >> and there are conflicting reports of extensive reporting and a
tamerlan's wife? we know we've seen her, she's gone back to the cambridge house briefly to apparently get some mail and other things. she is believed to be with her parents in rhode island. are they interviewed her to know how much she knew about his radicalization? >> they will. they very much want to. they want to talk to every member of the family. they want it talk to all his friends. they want to know not just the answer to that question, but fill in as many pieces of the puzzle as...
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one worshipper described tamerlan, "he's crazy to me. he had anger inside. i can't explain what was in his mind." an aunt describes him as a chechen that became more devout as a muslim in the last couple years. friends of his wife and his brother say he brainwashed them. i'm joined by ambassador mark ginsberg. always good to see you. by the time tamerlan tsarnaev spent six months in dagestan he had already become radical in his religious views. let's set the scene. would it be fair to call dagestan ground zero? >> absolutely. i think it's going to be more and more prevalent. let's just assume for the fact here of not putting this gentleman into the equation but understanding. dagestan along with four other repolitics in the north caucasus region have direct ties to al qaeda and terrorist groups that have direct ties to afghani terrorists. this would be the al qaeda in the caucasus branch of al qaeda. we even know that the number two was there in 1997. there are several groups in chechnya and dagestan that have been deemed terrorists organizations by the unit
one worshipper described tamerlan, "he's crazy to me. he had anger inside. i can't explain what was in his mind." an aunt describes him as a chechen that became more devout as a muslim in the last couple years. friends of his wife and his brother say he brainwashed them. i'm joined by ambassador mark ginsberg. always good to see you. by the time tamerlan tsarnaev spent six months in dagestan he had already become radical in his religious views. let's set the scene. would it be fair to...
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he looked up to older brother, tamerlan, who seemed to feel a little less at ease. on the surface, the tsarnaev brothers looked like an immigrant success story. 26-year-old tamerlan studied engineering, was married with a 2-year-old daughter and a golden gloves heavyweight champion. >> his plans were to be a very successful businessman. year-old dzhokhar, a star wrestler in high school, was a at umass-dartmouth. he became a u.s. citizen last year on september 11th. his college friends told "60 minutes" scott pelley he was interested in cars and soccer and they never saw him at a mosque or prayers. >> if someone a few days ago told me that one of my friends was responsible for the bombs, bombing in boston, i would have named off at least 90% of everyone that i know before i would have said dzhokhar. >> reporter: the brothers arrived in the u.s. in 2002 with their parents and two sisters. seeking refuge from the violence between the russian military and muslim separatists in their native chechnya. their mother denies they were responsible for the bombings. >> my young
he looked up to older brother, tamerlan, who seemed to feel a little less at ease. on the surface, the tsarnaev brothers looked like an immigrant success story. 26-year-old tamerlan studied engineering, was married with a 2-year-old daughter and a golden gloves heavyweight champion. >> his plans were to be a very successful businessman. year-old dzhokhar, a star wrestler in high school, was a at umass-dartmouth. he became a u.s. citizen last year on september 11th. his college friends...
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the fbi has also asked to speak with the wife of the older brother tamerlan. she is in a home in rhode island with her parents. her lawyer is now discussing how they will move forward. anne-marie? >> susan mcginnis in boston. thank you, susan. >>> for now federal officials have decided not to read tsarnaev his miranda rights. miranda rights inform criminals of their right to remain silent and their right to an attorney. this is allowed on a limited basis when the public may be in immediate danger, and there are those like senator lindsey graham who say tsarnaev should be consideredn enemy combatant so he can waive his right. others disagree. >> there's plenty of evidence. they don't need it to get him into a trial. i don't think we have to cross the line and say he's an enemy combatant which could be challenged in court. one circuit rules one way, one rules the other way. >> we should reserve the right to look at him as an enemy combatant and continue to look for evidence and if we find evidence and go to him as chuck says and gather intelligence. >> now the s
the fbi has also asked to speak with the wife of the older brother tamerlan. she is in a home in rhode island with her parents. her lawyer is now discussing how they will move forward. anne-marie? >> susan mcginnis in boston. thank you, susan. >>> for now federal officials have decided not to read tsarnaev his miranda rights. miranda rights inform criminals of their right to remain silent and their right to an attorney. this is allowed on a limited basis when the public may be in...
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tamerlan, on the other side, people are saying why did he come back so radicalizeed. over here he seemed aimless. he dropped out of college. when he went there, he went to the regions he went to, seems as though to have taken the earmarks, an approach to terrorism. we're going to talk about that around the corner. gary is in that area. >>gretchen: apparently the brothers went to a mosque nearby in their neighborhood that had controversial history about being radicalized. there are a lot of pieces to the puzzle now coming together as is usually the case, unfortunately, after the fact. we'll talk about this all morning. in the meantime there are other headlines for you on a monday. a developing story overnight, a shooting at an apartment complex south of seattle leaving five people dead including the suspect. police responded and found two men wounded in a parking lot. a man and woman were found dead inside apartments in a complex. it is too early to know what caused this whole event. >> authorities releasing the names of five people killed this weekend in an avalanche
tamerlan, on the other side, people are saying why did he come back so radicalizeed. over here he seemed aimless. he dropped out of college. when he went there, he went to the regions he went to, seems as though to have taken the earmarks, an approach to terrorism. we're going to talk about that around the corner. gary is in that area. >>gretchen: apparently the brothers went to a mosque nearby in their neighborhood that had controversial history about being radicalized. there are a lot...
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now we're not saying that tamerlan tsarnaev ever met abu dijan. it is just very interesting that he linked to a video of this man shortly after he, in fact, himself had been in the same city of that now deceased militant. john? >> nick, you're doing terrific reporting from the region. really help putting the pieces of this puzzle together. just a short while ago you spoke to the suspect's aunt. what did she have to say? >> well, his aunt had a couple of interesting things to say. i think the thing that stood out the most was that she herself was surprised to see tamerlan return to dagestan last year. very much a devout muslim. she almost joked she was worried he would go to america and take up drink or drugs. but, in fact, he adopted the muslim faith there. came back devout. wouldn't look women he raent related to in the eye, and talked a lot about the central role of religion in life. another interesting fact, too, she came out with, the family, in fact, came back from kurdistan to chechnya, just near from where i'm standing, before the second ch
now we're not saying that tamerlan tsarnaev ever met abu dijan. it is just very interesting that he linked to a video of this man shortly after he, in fact, himself had been in the same city of that now deceased militant. john? >> nick, you're doing terrific reporting from the region. really help putting the pieces of this puzzle together. just a short while ago you spoke to the suspect's aunt. what did she have to say? >> well, his aunt had a couple of interesting things to say. i...
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tamerlan traveled to russia last year. stayed about six months. the big question right now, though is how did he spend his time there? an nbc news terrorist analyst, robin mcfadden served as the special agent in charge and deputy assistant director foreintelligence operations. good to have you both in the studio. you've been anne interrogator, we're been talking about this, the throat injury the suspect has, he's in serious condition. how do you interrogate someone who can't speak? you ask questions and they write on a pad? >> that's one possibility, but here we have just another challenge on top of a challenge under these circumstances. first and foremost, it's the medical clearance from the doctors working hand and glove with the personnel, the investigators on-scene and then once that medical clearance is given, and actually even before then, there could be a period where there's a personal connection, or a bond with -- i've been in situations before, serious injuries, but before there's a full medical clearance, could you actually be in the ro
tamerlan traveled to russia last year. stayed about six months. the big question right now, though is how did he spend his time there? an nbc news terrorist analyst, robin mcfadden served as the special agent in charge and deputy assistant director foreintelligence operations. good to have you both in the studio. you've been anne interrogator, we're been talking about this, the throat injury the suspect has, he's in serious condition. how do you interrogate someone who can't speak? you ask...
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an exclusive against tamerlan. a source in russia tells nbc news russian intelligence reached out to the fbi last november about the 26-year-old. and crime scene units are back at the bomb site in boston right now. they're placing debris into garbage trucks. crews were seen sifting last night throughout that debris. let's go to pete williams. with a good afternoon to you, pete, let's talk first about the status of the charges in this case and what the likely charges will be. >> yes, i think the odds are pretty good that we'll see these charges in the next couple of hours. they're putting the final touches on them now. and we expect to learn a little more about what the fbi has assembled based on its investigation of the bombing. so perhaps there will be some new details that we'll get. in terms of the charges, i would think at the very least they'll charge him with the bombing, with a terrorism offense for that. and interestingly enough, under the federal statutes, which apply here, use of a weapon of mass destruct
an exclusive against tamerlan. a source in russia tells nbc news russian intelligence reached out to the fbi last november about the 26-year-old. and crime scene units are back at the bomb site in boston right now. they're placing debris into garbage trucks. crews were seen sifting last night throughout that debris. let's go to pete williams. with a good afternoon to you, pete, let's talk first about the status of the charges in this case and what the likely charges will be. >> yes, i...
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says it interviewed tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011 after being told by a foreign government, reportedly russia, he had become a follower of riradical islam. they found no evidence of terrorist activity at that time. did the chech anyian brothers act alone or was it a broughter plan with coconspiracies in the u.s. or overseas? wayne simmons, a former c.i.a. analyst and joins us now with some insight. thank you for coming in today. >> always a pleasure. >> i want to ask you about this. the way that the bombs they use have had been described, you know, many law enforcement sources said they were too sophisticated for somebody who was going to google and throw something together that the brothers had to have training at some point. for what they are accused of doing. what do you make of that? >> all of us, first of all, those agree that nothing today is 100% certain. that is where we need to start. if i had to make a guess, i would remind guys like me that 12 years ago, 13 years ago the chechens were in afghanistan trying to build the same kind of bombs, using propane tanks. and they were blowing
says it interviewed tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011 after being told by a foreign government, reportedly russia, he had become a follower of riradical islam. they found no evidence of terrorist activity at that time. did the chech anyian brothers act alone or was it a broughter plan with coconspiracies in the u.s. or overseas? wayne simmons, a former c.i.a. analyst and joins us now with some insight. thank you for coming in today. >> always a pleasure. >> i want to ask you about this. the...
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unprecedented set of events that ended with a surprisingly subdued ending on friday night. 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev was pronounced dead after a dramatic shootout with law enforcement early friday morning. his 19-year-old dzhokhar escaped on foot precipitating a shelter in place order for the entire boston area. but the much sought after armed and dangerous teen was found wounded and incoherent in a boat parked in the backyard of a suburban watertown home. discovered not by the hundreds of armed officers who had been searching for him for hours but by the home's owner, reportedly out for a smoke. with one assailant dead and the other in police custody, the people of watertown and the entire boston area expressed their enormous gratitude and sense of relief with spontaneous cheers and applause on friday night. the crisis is over. now the politics begin and this is where our responsibility in the media shifts. in the heat of the crisis, media take on the job of informational clearinghouse, keeping the public up to date, sharing critical information and get the information out right and fast.
unprecedented set of events that ended with a surprisingly subdued ending on friday night. 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev was pronounced dead after a dramatic shootout with law enforcement early friday morning. his 19-year-old dzhokhar escaped on foot precipitating a shelter in place order for the entire boston area. but the much sought after armed and dangerous teen was found wounded and incoherent in a boat parked in the backyard of a suburban watertown home. discovered not by the hundreds of...
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tamerlan is off now. there's no obedience even to respect his own father. >> and the person he's talking about although not named he says is an amenian converted to islam. a lot of questions about this. we still have to see whether there would be any direct link to any type of terrorist organization. >> what about the connection to chechnya? how does that affect things? >> well, there's certainly ethnic chechen. that area has been war torn for years. and then they were moving, the two brothers were born in kyrgyzstan, another place. and then they come to the united states. so talking with some experts in that region, they said that they may have been looking especially the older brother for their identity, who they were. and when you google anything on chechnya, you come up with some brutal stuff about the war in chechnya, '94 and '96. and it could easily become a radicalization or self-radicalization procedure as one of these experts said. >> thanks. jill dougherty at the white house for us this morning.
tamerlan is off now. there's no obedience even to respect his own father. >> and the person he's talking about although not named he says is an amenian converted to islam. a lot of questions about this. we still have to see whether there would be any direct link to any type of terrorist organization. >> what about the connection to chechnya? how does that affect things? >> well, there's certainly ethnic chechen. that area has been war torn for years. and then they were moving,...
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the fbi says they interviewed tamerlan. they questioned members of his family, looked into public databases, and concluded they had no evidence of -- no hard evidence of islamic activity. now what's interesting -- radical islamic activity or anything cripple nal. now what's interesting in january of 2012 he gets a visa, flies to russia for six months, stays there. then he comes back to the united states and within a month he opens up this youtube account that's filled with islamic jihadi postings and radical prophecies that clearly would indicate sympathies for the jihad cause. did the fbi even notice that after having gotten this tip from the russian fsb? did they continue to monitor him? and then finally once the marathon bombing took place, did they go back right away to their databases and see what they had in their own files on radical extremists or possible radical extremists in the possible area and was there any information on tamerlan, did they notice the information they already had in their own files about tamerl
the fbi says they interviewed tamerlan. they questioned members of his family, looked into public databases, and concluded they had no evidence of -- no hard evidence of islamic activity. now what's interesting -- radical islamic activity or anything cripple nal. now what's interesting in january of 2012 he gets a visa, flies to russia for six months, stays there. then he comes back to the united states and within a month he opens up this youtube account that's filled with islamic jihadi...
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. >> reporter: tamerlan didn't arrive in america until 2006. that leaves the possibility he spent five formative years in southern russia. in a troubled, poor region peppered with radicals, perhaps lies some of the holes in tamerlan's story that urgently must be filled if boston will ever know why. nick paton walsh, cnn. >> our thanks to nick paton walsh for that really interesting report. >> a half a million people are attending the london marathon today and security is extremely tight. plus a member of the royal family shows up to cheer on the crowds. we'll tell you who showed up right after this. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. i tried weight loss plans... but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and they have six grams of sugars. with fifteen grams of protein to help manage hunger... look who's getting smart about her weight. [ male announc
. >> reporter: tamerlan didn't arrive in america until 2006. that leaves the possibility he spent five formative years in southern russia. in a troubled, poor region peppered with radicals, perhaps lies some of the holes in tamerlan's story that urgently must be filled if boston will ever know why. nick paton walsh, cnn. >> our thanks to nick paton walsh for that really interesting report. >> a half a million people are attending the london marathon today and security is...
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but tamerlan was not nice. she met him twice and thought he was nastier. but the younger boy, who everybody thinks was the follower, this is the older son, tamerlan she did not like him. he said, "i don't any american friends. i don't understand them." the younger boy that people think is a follower, she thought was nice and kind. >> tucker: talked about the extremism and radical underpinnings of the family. you could tell that the mom was influenced by the older son, the 26-year-old. talk about the 9/11 conspiracy. she says this. this is what alyssa says in her opinion piece for foxnews.com. she writes this shouldn't surprised me because she was increasingly religious in college. and she mentioned allah and lesson of the quran. she was telling me that 9/11 was created by the american government to make america hate muslims. it's real, she said michigan son knows all about it and you can read it on the internet. >> surprisingly. she said at one point it's okay, you can use the bathroom. there are no men in the house. what is striking, the longer they live
but tamerlan was not nice. she met him twice and thought he was nastier. but the younger boy, who everybody thinks was the follower, this is the older son, tamerlan she did not like him. he said, "i don't any american friends. i don't understand them." the younger boy that people think is a follower, she thought was nice and kind. >> tucker: talked about the extremism and radical underpinnings of the family. you could tell that the mom was influenced by the older son, the...
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tamerlan traveled to russia for six months last year. the fbi wants to know exactly who he saw and what he was doing, dan. >> let me get back to the fbi investigation into the older brother. you've been talking to the fbi all day. are they not expecting any sense of frustration or remorse over having missed what could have been a real opportunity here? >> they'll do a postmortem, which is normal in these cases, but they said they did what the lou and the constitution allows. >> pierre, thank you. >>> and in order to dig deeper into the lives of these two young suspects, we sent kirit radia to a rough and remote area where the family comes from. here is what he found today. >> reporter: in a tearful phone call with abc news this evening, the mother of the suspected boston bombers said she and her husband planned to travel to the u.s. to see their young son captured friday night. she insists her sons were set up, and that her eldest son was investigated because he loved islam and didn't do anything bad. her comments feed the mystery over w
tamerlan traveled to russia for six months last year. the fbi wants to know exactly who he saw and what he was doing, dan. >> let me get back to the fbi investigation into the older brother. you've been talking to the fbi all day. are they not expecting any sense of frustration or remorse over having missed what could have been a real opportunity here? >> they'll do a postmortem, which is normal in these cases, but they said they did what the lou and the constitution allows....
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tamerlan tsarnaev had bnd killed in a shootout. the break in finding his younger brother came from a wathertown person out having a smoke. dave saw his tarp being kicked out, he saw blood on the boat, he climb on a crate to peer in and saw the wounded person and he called police to with the tip that could lead to the capture of dzhokhar tsarnaev. joining me on the phone,s in nbc and boston native, mike bar kl. congressman, let me start with you. boy, i tell you, you look at that community and you just saw what big poppy had to say. what's your feeling today after the capture of one suspect and the killing of another? >> reporter: like everyone else, relief and truly looking forward to getting back to some sort of a normal life in the boston area knowing full well we've got a fee friends an family injured and lost a few of our friends an family, trying to take care of them as well. >> one of the ways people take care of themselves is try to get back to normal. i understand there is a wedding at fenway, neil diamond was at fenway. >>
tamerlan tsarnaev had bnd killed in a shootout. the break in finding his younger brother came from a wathertown person out having a smoke. dave saw his tarp being kicked out, he saw blood on the boat, he climb on a crate to peer in and saw the wounded person and he called police to with the tip that could lead to the capture of dzhokhar tsarnaev. joining me on the phone,s in nbc and boston native, mike bar kl. congressman, let me start with you. boy, i tell you, you look at that community and...
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questioned 26 year old tamerlan tsarnaev two years ago and it may have been on with more than one occasion. what are we learning on that front. >> it is interesting that the f.b.i. didn't identify the foreign government that warned the u.s. about him. it little doubt it russia. russia critized the u.s. for ignoring the chechen threat. >> i met with the foreign minister and police officials. we were discussing security things. everyone of them told me. go back and tell president bush take these people seriously. thape are very dangerous. >> it may not be coincidental that president putin offered condollences over the boston attack. given the extensive postingings of jihad i felt videos it is peculliar that the f.b.i. did not follow up. >> how sustained was this process bypass the f.b.i. to cover him. did they do that . technical coverage and run sources at him. how long did this go on? i serve agency for a couple of decades. if the ssb russian internal security told us someone involve would with the chechens they would in my mind need a period. the mother told it more. >> they used to come
questioned 26 year old tamerlan tsarnaev two years ago and it may have been on with more than one occasion. what are we learning on that front. >> it is interesting that the f.b.i. didn't identify the foreign government that warned the u.s. about him. it little doubt it russia. russia critized the u.s. for ignoring the chechen threat. >> i met with the foreign minister and police officials. we were discussing security things. everyone of them told me. go back and tell president bush...
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it's still unclear whether the elder son tamerlan, actually did meet someone suspicious. we know that he was with his father. his father has spoken at length about both sons actually. he did confirm the man did come out and visit and stayed with them. both parents have actually said that they believe both sons, the 26-year-old tamerlan, now deceased, and the 19-year-old dzhokhar, the one who's in custody in the hospital, they say that they were framed. and the mother has actually accused the fbi of regularly harassing the family. she says because they are chechens, ethnic chechens. now, the parents have been living more recently in dagestan which is in the north caucuses region. now, this is a very troubled area. it's a small russian republic, but it's neighboring chechnya. both of these areas have seen a lot of conflict, particularly an active separatist group in dagestan right now, there's a mission taking place in the area to clean up what the government says is a guerrilla group. now, the mother, of course, has described her sons as good people and that they were pers
it's still unclear whether the elder son tamerlan, actually did meet someone suspicious. we know that he was with his father. his father has spoken at length about both sons actually. he did confirm the man did come out and visit and stayed with them. both parents have actually said that they believe both sons, the 26-year-old tamerlan, now deceased, and the 19-year-old dzhokhar, the one who's in custody in the hospital, they say that they were framed. and the mother has actually accused the...
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. >> reporter: officers shoot 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev who later died with explosives strapped to his body. his younger brother dzhokhar flees, armed and dangerous. >> we're looking for a suspect consistent with the description of suspect number two. >> reporter: more than 9,000 officers mobilized, much of boston under lockdown as authorities search high and low for suspect number two. >> we believe this to be a terrorist. we believe this to be a man who has come here to kill people. >> reporter: as the hunt continues, the suspect's family speaks out. >> translator: someone framed them. i don't know who exactly did it but someone did, and being cowards, they shot the boy dead. >> he put a shame on the tsarnaev family, he put a shame on the entire chechen ethnicity. >> reporter: late friday, still no capture. >> we do not have an apprehension of our suspect this afternoon, but we will have one. >> reporter: but just an hour later, officers have suspect number two cornered. >> they have the suspect, they believe it is the suspect, they know exactly where he is. they've cordonned off
. >> reporter: officers shoot 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev who later died with explosives strapped to his body. his younger brother dzhokhar flees, armed and dangerous. >> we're looking for a suspect consistent with the description of suspect number two. >> reporter: more than 9,000 officers mobilized, much of boston under lockdown as authorities search high and low for suspect number two. >> we believe this to be a terrorist. we believe this to be a man who has come...
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and, you know, i stopped seeing tamerlan around. you know, i would see him around after high school. and about two years ago, i just stopped seeing him. i would ask friends. i would ask people that knew him, associates, where is tamerlan? what's up with him? how is he doing? no one seemed to know. they would assume i think he is back in his country. and then the latest update i got was on monday, and it was pretty horrific. i'm really curious and interested to know what happened in the past year or two that made them flip the switch into evil? >> jon: when the photos came out on thursday, did you recognize them? did you say wait a minute? that's dzhokhar? >> i did not. i did. no and the reason being, when i coached little brother, he had more of a baby face. and in the pixel lated atedo and i think pixel is the key word. hard to pick him out as somebody. he had more facial hair and more -- he had more scruffy look. and big brother, tamerlan, he hardly ever wore a hat. he had a hat on. he was cleanly shaven. he had the glasses on. an
and, you know, i stopped seeing tamerlan around. you know, i would see him around after high school. and about two years ago, i just stopped seeing him. i would ask friends. i would ask people that knew him, associates, where is tamerlan? what's up with him? how is he doing? no one seemed to know. they would assume i think he is back in his country. and then the latest update i got was on monday, and it was pretty horrific. i'm really curious and interested to know what happened in the past...
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tamerlan tsarnaev is dead now. authorities at the hospital said that he hhat they call bullet holes in his body they were not able to count them but it is also believed that some of what peered his body after a confrontation with police may have been shrapnel from a bomb that these men were carrying. jenna: it brings the latest report from "the washington post" really to light. these two brothers took a car from a man yet to be identified, but "the washington post" apparently has sources that have spoken directly with him. here is the scene that they paint, that overnight sometime between the hours of it seems 10:00pm to about 1:00am these two brothers carjacked an individual, and apparently after they did so they forced the driver out of the car at different locations and different bank machines, according to "the washington post" they were able to withdraw several hundred dollars out of these tiff rent atm machines. that fits more or less with earlier reporting that we had about maybe dzhokhar being the one that
tamerlan tsarnaev is dead now. authorities at the hospital said that he hhat they call bullet holes in his body they were not able to count them but it is also believed that some of what peered his body after a confrontation with police may have been shrapnel from a bomb that these men were carrying. jenna: it brings the latest report from "the washington post" really to light. these two brothers took a car from a man yet to be identified, but "the washington post"...